This has been researched and written by Alan Horder (of Leicester). The bracket numbers after names refer to the generation of that name. The generation of Benjamin Horder is taken to be number 1
g138 William Trodd was born in Dartford in 1746, and married g139 Sarah Burwell
on 28th. October 1771 in Dartford. He had 1 son, John, that we know of.
g139 Sarah Burwell was born in Dartford in 1750, and married g138 William Trodd
on 28th. October 1771 in Dartford. She had 1 son, John, that we know of.
g141 Richard Whitehead was born in Eynsford in 1745, and married g142 Mary Edwards
on 14th. June 1768 in Eynsford. He had 1 daughter, Elizabeth, that we know of.
g142 Mary Edwards was born in Eynsford in 1749(?), and married g141 Richard Whitehead
on 14th. June 1768 in Eynsford. She had 1 daughter, Elizabeth, that we know of.
g140 John Trodd was born in 1785, and married g143 Elizabeth Whitehead
on 8th. May 1808 in Bexley, Kent. He was the son of William and Sarah Trodd. He had 1 daughter, Hannah, that we know of.
g143 Elizabeth Whitehead was born in 1783, and married g140 John Trodd
on 8th. May 1808 in Bexley, Kent. She was the daughter of Richard and Mary Whitehead. She had 1 daughter, Hannah, and 1 son George, that we know of. In 1841 she was living in Robert Street, Poplar. She was a laundress.
g194 George Trodd was born in 1824. He was the son of John and Elizabeth Trodd. In 1841 he was living in Robert Street, Poplar. He was a labourer. He married g216 Martha Elizabeth King in 1843 (1843 quarter 3, Westminster, folio 1 page 407). In 1851 he was living at 3 Maria Place, Lambeth. He was a fish monger.
g216 Martha Elizabeth Trodd (neé King) was born in 1822. She married g194 George Trodd in 1843 (1843 quarter 3, Westminster, folio 1 page 407). In 1851 she was living at 3 Maria Place, Lambeth.
g217 George Trodd was born in 1845. He was the son of George and Martha Elizabeth Trodd. In 1851 he was living at 3 Maria Place, Lambeth.
4. g009 Benjamin John? (3) Horder (Thomas(2), Benjamin(1)) [1,3R;1,4R;1,5R] was born in Bermondsey, St John. Horsleydown, 17th. March 1814, and christened on 24th. April 1814. Benjamin died 1897 (2nd. quarter, folio 1d page 342) in Wandsworth, at 83 years of age.
He married Hannah Trodd g010 [1,3R;1,4R;1,5R] in St Pancras Old Church, on 10th. June 1838 (2nd. quarter, folio 1 page 305). Hannah was born in Clerkenwell, 1813. Hannah died 1895 (2nd. quarter, folio 1d page 599) in Lewisham, at 82 years of age.
At 26 years of age Hannah became the mother of John Trodd Horder in Bermondsey, St Mary, Magadalene, 1839. At 29 years of age Hannah became the mother of Emily Elizabeth Horder in Bermondsey, St Mary Magadalene, 1842. At 31 years of age Hannah became the mother of Lydia Sarah Horder in Bermondsey,. St Mary Magadalene, 1844. At 34 years of age Hannah became the mother of Harry Benjamin Horder in Bermondsey, 1847. At 37 years of age Hannah became the mother of Mary Ellen Horder in Bermondsey, 1850. At 39 years of age Hannah became the mother of Edward George Horder in Bermondsey, 1852. At 42 years of age Hannah became the mother of George Horder in Bermondsey, 1855. At 42 years of age Hannah became the mother of Thomas Horder in Bermondsey, 1855. In the 1881 (census) she is living at 25 Crescent Road, Plumstead, with her son George. She is marked as head of the family, question, where is Benjamin?
At 25 years of age Benjamin became the father of John Trodd Horder in Bermondsey, St Mary Magadalene, 1839. At 28 years of age Benjamin became the father of Emily Elizabeth Horder in Bermondsey, St Mary Magadalene, 1842. At 30 years of age Benjamin became the father of Lydia Sarah Horder in Bermondsey, St Mary Magadalene, 1844. At 33 years of age Benjamin became the father of Harry Benjamin Horder in Bermondsey, 1847. At 36 years of age Benjamin became the father of Mary Ellen Horder in Bermondsey, 1850. At 38 years of age Benjamin became the father of Edward George Horder in Bermondsey, 1852. At 41 years of age Benjamin became the father of George Horder in Bermondsey, 1855. At 41 years of age Benjamin became the father of Thomas Horder in Bermondsey, 1855.
In 1841 they were living at Prospect Row, Bermondsey. Benjamin was a leather dresser. In 1851 they were living at 5 Parker's Terrace. Bermondsey. Benjamin's occupation was Leather Dresser. In 1861 (census) and the 1871 (census) they were still living at 5 Parker's Terrace in Bermondsey. Benjamin's occupation was now Leather Finisher. In 1889 he was a merchant.
At 26 years of age Hannah became the mother of John Trodd Horder in Bermondsey, St Mary, Magadalene, 1839. At 29 years of age Hannah became the mother of Emily Elizabeth Horder in Bermondsey, St Mary Magadalene, 1842. At 31 years of age Hannah became the mother of Lydia Sarah Horder in Bermondsey,. St Mary Magadalene, 1844. At 34 years of age Hannah became the mother of Harry Benjamin Horder in Bermondsey, 1847. At 37 years of age Hannah became the mother of Mary Ellen Horder in Bermondsey, 1850. At 39 years of age Hannah became the mother of Edward George Horder in Bermondsey, 1852. At 42 years of age Hannah became the mother of George Horder in Bermondsey, 1855. At 42 years of age Hannah became the mother of Thomas Horder in Bermondsey, 1855. In the 1881 (census) she is living at 25 Crescent Road, Plumstead, with her son George. She is marked as head of the family, question, where is Benjamin?
At 25 years of age Benjamin became the father of John Trodd Horder in Bermondsey, St Mary Magadalene, 1839. At 28 years of age Benjamin became the father of Emily Elizabeth Horder in Bermondsey, St Mary Magadalene, 1842. At 30 years of age Benjamin became the father of Lydia Sarah Horder in Bermondsey, St Mary Magadalene, 1844. At 33 years of age Benjamin became the father of Harry Benjamin Horder in Bermondsey, 1847. At 36 years of age Benjamin became the father of Mary Ellen Horder in Bermondsey, 1850. At 38 years of age Benjamin became the father of Edward George Horder in Bermondsey, 1852. At 41 years of age Benjamin became the father of George Horder in Bermondsey, 1855. At 41 years of age Benjamin became the father of Thomas Horder in Bermondsey, 1855.
In 1841 they were living at Prospect Row, Bermondsey. Benjamin was a leather dresser. In 1851 they were living at 5 Parker's Terrace. Bermondsey. Benjamin's occupation was Leather Dresser. In 1861 (census) and the 1871 (census) they were still living at 5 Parker's Terrace in Bermondsey. Benjamin's occupation was now Leather Finisher. In 1889 he was a merchant.
Benjamin John? Horder and Hannah Trodd had the following family:
- g019 John Trodd(4) Horder [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] was born on 19th. May 1839 (1839 quarter 2, Bermondsey, folio 4 page 27) and died 1917 (1917 quarter 4, Brighton, folio 2b page 317) in Brighton, Sussex. In 1841 he was living at Prospect Row, Bermondsey. In 1851 he was living at 5 Parker's Terrace. Bermondsey.
- g022 Emily Elizabeth Horder [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] was born in Bermondsey, St Mary Magadalene, 1842 (1st. quarter, folio 4 page 5), and christened on 18th. October 1842. In 1851 she was living at 5 Parker's Terrace. Bermondsey. In the 1861 (census) she had house duties. She married g206 Robert James Baker in Bermondsey, 1863 (1863 quarter 2, Bermondsey, folio 1d, page 119).
- g023 Lydia Sarah Horder [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] was born in Bermondsey, St Mary Magadalene, 1844 (1st. quarter, folio 4 page 10), and christened on 3rd. March 1844. In 1851 she was living at 5 Parker's Terrace. Bermondsey. In the 1861 (census) she was a needlewoman. She married Alexander Baker g128 [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] in Bermondsey, 1866 (4th. quarter, folio 1d page 150). In 1871 (census) they were living at 55 Bloomfield Road, Plumstead. Alexander was a commercial clerk born in Bermondsey in 1843. They had 1 son, Ernest Alexander g129 [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] born in Plumstead in 1868 (1868 quarter 2, Lewisham, folio 1d page 862), and 1 daughter, Ada Lydia g130 [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R], born in Plumstead in 1869 (1869 quarter 4, Woolwich, folio 1d page 914).
Lydia died in 1898 (4th. quarter, folio 1a page 358) in Marylebone. - g024 Harry Benjamin Horder [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] was born in Bermondsey on 22st. July 1847 (3rd. quarter, folio 4 page 7). In 1851 he was living at 5 Parker's Terrace. Bermondsey. In 1861 (census) and the 1871 (census) he was quoted as a leather finisher. He married g025 Jessie Maria Fussell née
Patience, in St. Olave, Southwark, in 1885 (3rd. quarter, folio 1d page 436).
- g025 Jessie [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] was born in St Olave about 1845. In 1867 (1st. quarter, folio 1c page 907) in Poplar she married g205 John Alfred Fussell. John Alfred was born Holborn in 1846 (1845 quarter 2, Bermondsey, folio 2 page 152) and was an engineers clerk. In 1881 (census) they were living at 6 Webster Road, Bermondsey.
Jessie died 1930 (1930 quarter 2, Lewisham, folio 1d page 971) in Lewisham, at 85 years of age. - g026 Mary Ellen Horder [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] was born in Bermondsey, 1850 (2nd. quarter, folio 4 page 11), and christened on 27th. April 1850. In 1851 she was living at 5 Parker's Terrace. Bermondsey. Mary died 1854 (1854 quarter 1, Bermondsey, folio 1d page 77) in Bermondsey, at 4 years of age.
- g027 Edward George Horder [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] was born in Bermondsey on 23st. November 1852 (4th. quarter, folio 1d page 71). In the 1861 (census) he was living at 5 Parker's Terrace. In the 1871 (census) same address, he was a jeweller's clerk. He married Eliza Caroline Stubbs g028 [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] in
Holborn, 1889 (3rd. quarter, folio 1b page 1199).
Eliza was born in Lambeth in 1850 (1st. quarter, folio 4 page 362).
- g029 George Horder [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] was born in Bermondsey on 21st. July 1855 (1855 quarter 3, Bermondsey, folio 1d page 55). In the 1861 (census), he was living at 5 Parker's Terrace, and in the 1871 (census) he was an errand boy, still living at 5 Parker's Terrace and in the 1881 (census), he was a store assisstant at the Tower of London, and living at 25 Crescent Road, Plumstead. He married Fanny Currell g030 [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] in All Souls Marylebone, 1887 (1st. quarter, folio 1a page 764). In the 1891 (census) they were living at 20 Blockhouse Street, Deptford. George was a miller. In the 1901 (census) same address but he is a dock porter. Fanny was born in 1858 (1858 quarter 2, St. Pancras, folio 1b page 6) in St. Pancras.
- g131 Thomas Horder [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] was born in Bermondsey on 21st. July 1855 (1855 quarter 3, Bermondsey, folio 1d page 55). In the 1861 (census), and in the 1871 (census) he was living at 5 Parker's Terrace.
George Horder and Fanny Currell had the following family:
- g132 Mildred Hannah Horder [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Willesden in 1888 (1887 quarter 4, Hendon, folio 3a page 192).
- g133 Florence May Horder [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Bermondsey in 1890 (1889 quarter 4, St. Olave, folio 1d page 243).
- g134 ThomasEdward Horder [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Deptford in 1895 (1894 quarter 2, Greenwich, folio 1d page 1003).
- g135 Helen Lydia (Nellie) Horder [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Deptford in 1898 (1897 quarter 2, Greenwich, folio 1d page 1012).
- g136 Ethel Rhoda Horder [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Deptford in 1900 (1899 quarter 4, Greenwich, folio 1d page 1023).
6. g019 John Trodd(4) Horder (Benjamin John?(3), Thomas(2), Benjamin(1)) [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] was born in Bermondsey, St Mary
Magadalene, 19th. May 1839 (1839 quarter 23, Bermondsey, folio 4 page 27). John died 1917 (1917 quarter 4, Brighton, folio 2b page 317) in Brighton, at 78 years of age.
In the 1861 (census), he was living at 25 Haymarket, St. Martins in the Fields, Westminster, goldsmiths and jewellers to the crown. His occupation was clerk in the counting house. Note that there was also a George W Milne from York. Probably brother to Sofia.
He married g020 Sophie Frances Millne [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] in Chebsey, Stone, Staffs, on 23rd. December 1868 (4th. quarter, folio 6b page 62). Sophie was born in York about 1840. Sophie died 1918 or later at 78 years of age. At 37 years of age Sophie became the mother of Charles Edward Horder in Hampstead, 1877. At 38 years of age John became the father of Charles Edward Horder in Hampstead, 1877.
In the 1871 (census), he was living at 130 Oakfield Road, and he was now a commercial clerk, with his aunt and a servant girl. In the 1881 (census), he was living at 5 Heathfield, Wandsworth with Sofia. He was still a commercial clerk. He was also living with his son Charles E, his aunt, Mary Ashton, and Elizabeth Gidding, a servant. In the 1891 (census) he was living at 2 Heathfield Road Wandsworth Common with his sister-in-law Fiamy Mary Macloskey and his nephew, Charles Millne Macloskey. His occupation was now a jewelry clerk. In the 1901 (census) he was living at Baskerville Road, with Sarah Crisp, cook/domestic servant and Emily,a housemaid. His occupation was now a goldsmith clerk C.C. In 1911 they were living at 46 Buckingham Road, Brighton.
In the 1861 (census), he was living at 25 Haymarket, St. Martins in the Fields, Westminster, goldsmiths and jewellers to the crown. His occupation was clerk in the counting house. Note that there was also a George W Milne from York. Probably brother to Sofia.
He married g020 Sophie Frances Millne [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] in Chebsey, Stone, Staffs, on 23rd. December 1868 (4th. quarter, folio 6b page 62). Sophie was born in York about 1840. Sophie died 1918 or later at 78 years of age. At 37 years of age Sophie became the mother of Charles Edward Horder in Hampstead, 1877. At 38 years of age John became the father of Charles Edward Horder in Hampstead, 1877.
In the 1871 (census), he was living at 130 Oakfield Road, and he was now a commercial clerk, with his aunt and a servant girl. In the 1881 (census), he was living at 5 Heathfield, Wandsworth with Sofia. He was still a commercial clerk. He was also living with his son Charles E, his aunt, Mary Ashton, and Elizabeth Gidding, a servant. In the 1891 (census) he was living at 2 Heathfield Road Wandsworth Common with his sister-in-law Fiamy Mary Macloskey and his nephew, Charles Millne Macloskey. His occupation was now a jewelry clerk. In the 1901 (census) he was living at Baskerville Road, with Sarah Crisp, cook/domestic servant and Emily,a housemaid. His occupation was now a goldsmith clerk C.C. In 1911 they were living at 46 Buckingham Road, Brighton.
John Trodd Horder and Sophie Frances Millne had the following family:
- g021 Charles Edward(5) Horder [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Hampstead, 1877 (1877 quarter 1, Hampstead, folio 1a page 661). In the 1881 (census), he was living at 5 Heathfield, Wandsworth and in the 1891 (census) he was living at 2 Heathfield House, Wandsworth Common. 1894 Pupil at St Pauls School. 1898 Scholar at Kings College Hospital. In the 1901 (census) he was living at Baskerville Road, as a medical student.
g185 Charles Millne was born in 1806 in London. He was married to g186 Sophia. In 1841 he was living on Coney St. York. He was a goldsmith. In 1851 he was living at 29 Bootham, St Giles, York. He was a silversmith. He had 1 servant, Ann Horder.
g186 Sophia Millne was born in 1806 in York. She was married to g185 Charles. In 1841 she was living on Coney St. York. In 1851 she was living at 29 Bootham, St Giles, York.
g187 George W Millne was born in 1838 in York. He was a son of Charles and Sophia Millne. In 1841 he was living on Coney St. York. In 1851 he was living at 29 Bootham, St Giles, York. In 1861 he was living at 25 Haymarket , Westminster. He was assistant to goldsmith. In 1868 (1868 quarter 2, Lambeth, folio 1d page 653) he married g226 Mary Sohia Marshall. In 1871 he was living at 12 Piccadilly, St James, Westminster. In 1891 he was at 39 Nightingale Road, Portsea, and in 1901 he was at 51 Thursby Road, Lambeth. He had one son and one daughter.
g226 Mary Sohia Millne (neé Marshall) was born in 1833 in Saltash, Cornwall. In 1868 (1868 quarter 2, Lambeth, folio 1d page 653) she married g187 George W Millne. In 1871 she was living at 12 Piccadilly, St James, Westminster. In 1891 she was at 39 Nightingale Road, Portsea, and in 1901 she was at 51 Thursby Road, Lambeth. She had one son and one daughter.
g227 Gaye S Millne was born in 1868 in Brixton. She was daughter of George and Mary Millne. In 1871 she was living at 12 Piccadilly, St James, Westminster.
g228 William M Millne was born in 1870 in Westminster. He was daughter of George and Mary Millne. In 1871 he was living at 12 Piccadilly, St James, Westminster.
g020 Sophia Frances Horder (née Millne) was born in 1839 in York. She was a daughter of Charles and Sophia Millne. In 1841 she was living on Coney St. York.
g193 Margaret Elizabeth Millne was born in 1841 (1841 quarter 1, York, folio 23 page 144) in York. She was a daughter of Charles and Sophia Millne. In 1841 she was living on Coney St. York. She died in 1847 (1847 quarter 2, York, folio 23 page 561)
g189 Fanny Millne was born in 1846 in York. She was a daughter of Charles and Sophia Millne. In 1851 she was living at 29 Bootham, St Giles, York.
g188 Charles Millne was born in 1849 (1848 quarter 2, York, folio 23 page 746) in York. He was a son of Charles and Sophia Millne. In 1851 he was living at 29 Bootham, St Giles, York.
