This has been researched and written by John Olsen.
Thomas Horder and Sarah Smith had the following family:
- g009 Benjamin John ? (3) Horder [1,3R;1,4R;1,5R] was born 1814 and christened on 24th. April 1814 and died 1897 (1897 quarter 2, Wandsworth, folio 1d page 342).
- g126 Thomas Horder [1,3R;1,4R;1,5R] was born in Bermondsey, 1820 and christened on 21st. May 1820. He married g011 Caroline Holmes [1,3R;1,4R;1,5R] in Newington, 1838.
- g012 William Harder [1,3R;1,4R;1,5R] was born in Bermondsey, St Mary Magdalene, 1820 and christened on 21st. May 1820.
- g013 Eliza Horder [1,3R;1,4R;1,5R] was born in Bermondsey, 1822 and christened on 10th. November 1822. In 1841 she was living at Fruimineres? Rents, Bermondsey. In 1851 she was living at 12 Russell Street. She was a house maid. Eliza died 1896 (1896 quarter 2, Romford, folio 4a page 195)? in Romford, at 74 years of age.
- g014 Mary Horder [1,3R;1,4R;1,5R] was born in Bermondsey, St Mary Magadalene, 1826 and christened on 1st. October 1826.
- g017 John Horder [1,3R;1,4R;1,5R] was born in Bermondsey, St Mary Magadalene, 1833 and christened on 17th. November 1833. In 1841 he was living at Fruimineres? Rents, Bermondsey. In 1851 he was living at 12 Russell Street. He was a leather finisher. He married g018 Susannah Howson [1,3R;1,4R;1,5R] in St Luke, 1852 (1st. quarter folio 1b page 561). In the 1871 census, they were living at 8 Jacob Street, Bermondsey, but in the in the 1881 census, and in the 1891 census, they were living at 15 Jacob Street, Bermondsey. Susannah was born in 1831 in Shoreditch, Middlesex. He was a leather dresser.
- g015 James Horder [1,3R;1,4R;1,5R] was born in Bermondsey, St Mary Magadelene, 1828 and christened on 16th. March 1828. In 1841 he was living at Fruimineres? Rents, Bermondsey. In 1851 he was living at 12 Russell Street. He was a leather finisher. He married g016 Emma Elizabeth Perrett [1,3R;1,4R;1,5R] in Bermondsey, 1853 (2nd. quarter folio 1d page 91). In the 1861 census, they were living at 3 Parker's Terrace, Bermondsey, 2 doors away from his brother Benjamin. James' occupation was a leather dresser.
Emma was born in Stratford, Essex in 1832. I think she died in St Saviour Southwark in 1899 (3rd. quarter folio 1b page 94) aged 68 years. (Although it could be in Staines, Middlsex in 1898 (1st. quarter folio 3a page 3) aged 66 years). They had 2 sons and 2 daughters.
In 1851 she was living at 21 Carter Street, Bromley, with her mother, Elizabeth Perrett, and her step family. In the 1871 and 1881 censuses, they were living at 20 Bath Street, Southwark. They had 2 lodgers, g181 Edward J Foreman [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] born in Crayford, Kent in 1856 (1856 quarter 2, Dartford, folio 2a page 217), a courrier, and James Hudson born in 1855 in While?, Kent, a railway porter.
James Horder and Emma Elizabeth Perrett had the following family:
- g160 Emma Maria Hill (neé Horder) [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] was born in Bermondsey, in 1854 (1854 quarter 2, Bermondsey, folio1d page 86). In 1861 she was living at 3 Parker's Terrace, Bermondsey. In the 1871 census, she was living at 20 Bath Street, Southwark. She married g257 Henry George Hill in 1876 (1876 quarter 2, Lambeth, folio 1d page 655). In 1881 she was living at 2 Edward Terrace, Wardsworth and in 1891 she was at 4 Hazelhurst Road, Streatham. She had three sons and one daughter.
- g257 Henry George Hill [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] was born in Stratford, London, in 1854. He married g160 Emma Maria Horder in 1876 (1876 quarter 2, Lambeth,foilo 1d page 655). In 1881 he was living at 2 Edward Terrace, Wardsworth and in 1891 he was living at 4 Hazelhurst Road, Streatham. He had three sons and one daughter. He was a textile printer.
- g260 Albert Henry Hill [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Walworth, London, in 1881 (1881 quarter 1, Wandsworth, folio 1d page 749). He was son of Henry George and Emma Maria Hill. In 1881 he was living at 2 Edward Terrace, Wardsworth and in 1891 he was at 4 Hazelhurst Road, Streatham.
- g269 Fred James Hill [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Streatham, London, in 1883 (1883 quarter 4, Wandsworth, folio 1d page 748). He was son of Henry George and Emma Maria Hill. In 1891 he was living at 4 Hazelhurst Road, Streatham.
- g270 Edith Emma Hill [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Streatham, London, in 1886 (1886 quarter 4, Wandsworth, folio 1d page 765). She was daughter of Henry George and Emma Maria Hill. In 1891 she was living at 4 Hazelhurst Road, Streatham.
- g271 Sydney George Hill [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Streatham, London, in 1889 (1889 quarter 1, Wandsworth, folio 1d page 809). He was son of Henry George and Emma Maria Hill. In 1891 he was living at 4 Hazelhurst Road, Streatham.
- g161 James Thomas Horder [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] was born in Bermondsey, in 1856 (1856 quarter 2, Bermondsey, folio 1d page 76). In 1861 he was living at 3 Parker's Terrace, Bermondsey. In 1871 he was living at 20 Bath Street Southwark. He married g261 Rosina Couzens in 1880 (1880 quarter 2, St. Saviour, folio 1d page 272a). In 1881 he was living at 106 Beresford Street, Lambeth. In 1891 he was living at 55 Grosvenor Park and at 109 Grosvenor Terrace, Newington in 1901. He was a booksellers assistant. He had two sons and one daughter that I know of.
- g261 Rosina Horder (neé Couzens) [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] was born in Newington, in 1859 (1859 quarter 1, Newington, folio 1d page 192). She married g161 James Thomas Horder in 1880 (1880 quarter 2, St. Saviour, folio 1d page 272a). In 1881 she was living at 106 Beresford Street, Lambeth, and in 1891 she was living at 55 Grosvenor Park, Newington. She had two sons and one daughter that I know of. She died in 1900 (1900 quarter 3, St Saviour, folio 1d page 82).
- g272 William James Horder [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Camberwell, London, in 1881 (1881 quarter 2, St. Saviour, folio 1d page 126). He was son of James Thomas and Rosina Horder. In 1881 he was living at 106 Beresford Street, Lambeth. In 1891 he was living at 55 Grosvenor Park, Newington in 1901.
- g273 Minnie E Horder [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Camberwell, London, in 1887. She was daughter of James Thomas and Rosina Horder. In 1891 she was living at 55 Grosvenor Park and at 109 Grosvenor Terrace, Kennington in 1901.
- g274 Edward Henry Horder [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in London, in 1890 (1890 quarter 4, St. Saviour, folio 1d page 102). He was son of James Thomas and Rosina Horder. In 1891 he was living at 55 Grosvenor Park and at 109 Grosvenor Terrace, Kennington in 1901.
- g162 Mary Ann Horder [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] was born in Bermondsey, in 1860 (1860 quarter 3, Bermondsey, folio 1d page 60). In the 1861 census, at aged 8 months, her occupation was stated as 'sucks titty'. She was living at 3 Parker's Terrace, Bermondsey. In the 1871 census, she was living at 20 Bath Street, Southwark. In the 1881 census, she is now an upholsteress. She married g181 Edward J Foreman [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R], the lodger, in Lambeth in 1886 (2nd. quarter folio 1d page 701). Edward was born in Crayford in 1856 (1856 quarter 2, Dartford, folio 2a page 217) They had 1 son and 2 daughters that I know of. In the 1891 census, they were living at 22 Milson Street, Bristol, and by 1901 they had moved to 2 Moorhill Street, Bristol.
- g163 Frederick Foreman [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Bristol, in 1887 (1887 quarter 2, Barton Regis, folio 6a page 123). In the 1901 census he was a clothiers clerk.
- g164 Ellen Emma Foreman [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Bristol, in 1888 (1888 quarter 3, Barton Regis, folio 6a page 138).
- g165 Gladys Winifred Foreman [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Bristol, in 1895 (1895 quarter 3, Barton Regis, folio 6a page 137).
- g166 Frederick William Horder [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] was born in Bermondsey, in 1863 (1863 quarter 3, Bermondsey, folio 1d page 62). In 1871 and 1881 he was a bookseller's porter, living at 20 Bath Street, Southwark. In 1901 still at the same address, he was a bookshop assistant. He married g167 Winifred Parrish [2,2R;2,3R;2,4R] at St. Saviour Southwark in 1887 (3rd. quarter folio 1d page 109). Winifred was born in 1865 (1865 quarter 2, Hackney, folio 1b page 370) in Kingsland, Middlesex. They had 1 son and 1 daughter that I know of.
- g168 Frederick William Horder [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Blackfriars, St Saviour, in 1892 (1st. quarter folio 1d page 65).
- g169 Ethel Gladys Horder [3,1R;3,2R;3,3R] was born in Blackfriars, St Saviour, in 1898 (2nd. quarter folio 1d page 56).