John Horder

This has been researched and written by Alan Horder (of Leicester). The bracket numbers after names refer to the generation of that name. The generation of Benjamin Horder is taken to be number 1. The Bacon and Bailey information was researched by John Olsen.

7. g183 John(4) Horder (John(3), Benjamin(2), Benjamin(1)) [gF;2gF;3gF] was born in St Olave, 1873 (1873 quarter 1, St. Olave, folio 1d page 266). John died 1940 (1940 quarter 1, Croydon, folio 2a page 1623) in Croydon, at 67 years of age. He married g035 Maud Mary Bacon [gM;2gM;3gM] in 1904 (1904 quarter 4, St. Olave, folio 1d page 403). Maud was born in Walworth, Surrey, in 1881 (1881 quarter 1, St Saviour, folio 1d page 168) to Ebenezer and Sarah (née Bailey) Bacon. Maud died 1962 (1962 quarter 3, Croydon, folio 5g page 120) in Croydon, at 81 years of age. In the 1881 census she was living at 108 Hill Street, Walworth, Newington, London.
In the 1891 census and the 1901 census she was living at 72 St. marks Road, Lambeth. In 1911 they were living at 41 Marcia Road, Bermondsey. In 1939 they were living at 30 Pridham Road, Croydon, London. John was a retired painter.
At 28 years of age Maud became the mother of George John Horder in Lambeth, 1909. At 29 years of age Maud became the mother of Alfred James Horder in St Olave, 1910. At 32 years of age Maud became the mother of Maud M Horder in Southwark, 1913. At 34 years of age Maud became the mother of Doris Winifred Horder in Camberwell, 1915. At 36 years of age Maud became the mother of Hilda Lilian Horder in Southwark, 1917. At 38 years of age Maud became the mother of William Horder in Croydon, 1919. At 40 years of age Maud became the mother of Vera B Horder in Croydon, 1921. At 43 years of age Maud became the mother of Phyllis Constance Horder in Croydon, 1924. At 36 years of age John became the father of George John Horder in Lambeth, 1909. At 37 years of age John became the father of Alfred James Horder in St Olave, 1910. At 40 years of age John became the father of Maud M Horder in Southwark, 1913. At 42 years of age John became the father of Doris Winifred Horder in Camberwell, 1915. At 44 years of age John became the father of Hilda Lilian Border in Southwark, 1917. At 46 years of age John became the father of William Horder in Croydon, 1919. At 48 years of age John became the father of Vera B Horder in Croydon, 1921. At 51 years of age John became the father of Phyllis Constance Horder in Croydon, 1924. In 1909 he was living at 24 Alfred Street, Grange Road, Bermondsey. Occupation Hop porter.

1. g424 Gladys Victoria Horder [A;gA;2gA] was born in 1907 (1907 quarter 1, St. Olave, folio 1d page 209), and died 1908 (1908 quarter 3, St. Olave, folio 1d page 83).
2. g43 George John(5) Horder [U;gU;2gU] was born in 1909 (1909 quarter 2, Lambeth, folio 1d page 264) and died in 1973. In 1911 he was living at 41 Marcia Road, Bermondsey.
3. g51 Alfred James Horder [U;gU;2gU] was born in 1910 (1910 quarter 4, St Olave, folio 1d page 212) and died in 1940. In 1911 he was living at 41 Marcia Road, Bermondsey.
4. g53 Maud M Horder [A;gA;2gA] was born in Southwark, in 1913 (1913 quarter 1, Southwark, folio 1d page 136). She married William J Tagg in Croydon, in 1934.
5. e02 Doris Winifred Horder [ML;gM;2gM] was born 1915 (1915 quarter 3, Camberwell, folio 1d page 1480) and died in Exmouth on 22 August 2002.
6. g045 Hilda Lilian Horder [A;gA;2gA] was born in Southwark, in 1917 (1917 quarter 2, Southwark, folio 1d page 155). In 1939 she was living at 30 Pridham Road, Croydon, London. She was a beer bottler. She married g046 Edward Paget-Smythe in Surrey, in 1940 (1940 quarter 3, Surrey Mid E, folio 2a page 1233). And who can forget the Lavender Water and Tosca (the dog). She died at 6am on 01/01/2012.
7. g118 William Horder [U;gU;2gU] was born in Croydon, in 1919 (1919 quarter 2, Croydon, folio 2a page 419). William died in 1919 (1919 quarter 2, Croydon, folio 2a page 363) in Croydon, at less than one year of age.
8. g047 Vera B Horder [A;gA;2gA] was born in 1921 (1921 quarter 2, Croydon, folio 2a page 627). She married Kyriacos Stylianou
9. 049 Phyllis Constance Horder [A;gA;2gA] was born in 1924 (1924 quarter 1, Croydon, folio 2a page 543).

g233 Henry Bailey [3gU;4gU;5gU] was born in 1821. In the 1841 census, he was living at 13 Williard Street, St Martins-In-The-Field. He was brother to Ambrose Bailey.

g232 Charles D Bailey [3gU;4gU;5gU] was born in 1836. In the 1841 census, he was living at 13 Williard Street, St Martins-In-The-Field. He was brother to Ambrose Bailey.

g144 Ambrose Bailey [3gF;4gF;5gF] was born in 1825 in St Georges, Middlesex, and was married to g145 Sarah Rachel Smith [3gM;4gM;5gM], born in 1829, in 1852 (1852 quarter 1, Marylebone, folio 1a page 534). In the 1841 census, he was living at 13 Williard Street, St Martins-In-The-Field. In 1851 he was a servant living at 1 Belgrave Mews and she was a cook at 4 Downspark Road. He was a butcher journeyman. In the 1861 census, he was described as a butcher and Sarah was a laundress. They were living at 29 Charles Street in Marylebone. They had a son, Ambrose Thomas [2gU;3gU;4gU] g146 , born in 1852 (1852 quarter 2, Marylebone, folio 1a page 396), a daughter g148 Sarah [2gM;3gM;4gM] born in 1855, and a second daughter g147 Alice [3gA;4gA;5gA], born in 1860.

g147 Alice Deakins (neé Bailey) [2gA;3gA;4gA] was born in 1859 in Croydon. In the 1861 census, she was living at 29 Charles Street, St. Marylebone. She married g291 Richard Deakins in 1879 (1879 quarter 4, Croydon, folio 2a, page 402). In the 1891 census, she was living at 4 Pridham Road Croydon. She had two sons, and three daughters.

g291 Richard Deakins [2gU;3gU;4gU] was born in 1851 (1851 quarter 3, Kingston, folio 4 page 239) in Wimbledon. He married g147 Alice Bailey in 1879 (1879 quarter 4, Croydon, folio 2a, page 402). In the 1891 census, he was living at 4 Pridham Road Croydon. He had two sons, and three daughters. he was a bricklayer.

g292 Alice Edith Deakins [1,2R;1,3R;1,4R] was born in 1876 (1876 quarter 4, Croydon, folio 2a page 234) in Croydon. She was daughter of Alice and Richard Deakins. In the 1891 census, she was living at 4 Pridham Road Croydon.

g293 Elizabeth Florence Deakins [1,2R;1,3R;1,4R] was born in 1881 (1881 quarter 2, Croydon, folio 2a page 227) in Croydon. She was daughter of Alice and Richard Deakins. In the 1891 census, she was living at 4 Pridham Road Croydon.

g294 Charlie Deakins [1,2R;1,3R;1,4R] was born in 1883 (1883 quarter 4, Croydon, folio 2a page 231) in Croydon. He was son of Alice and Richard Deakins. In the 1891 census, he was living at 4 Pridham Road Croydon.

g295 George Edwin Deakins [1,2R;1,3R;1,4R] was born in 1887 (1887 quarter 2, Croydon, folio 2a page 272) in Croydon. He was son of Alice and Richard Deakins. In the 1891 census, he was living at 4 Pridham Road Croydon.

g296 Ada Ethel Deakins [1,2R;1,3R;1,4R] was born in 1890 (1890 quarter 4, Croydon, folio 2a page 242) in Croydon. She was daughter of Alice and Richard Deakins. In the 1891 census, she was living at 4 Pridham Road Croydon.

g149 James Bacon [3gF;4gF;5gF] was born in 1809 and was married to g150 Mary, born in 1811. In 1841 and 1851 he was living at Polstead Heath, Polstead, Suffolk. In the 1861 census, he was described as an agricultural labourer. They were living at Mitchum Road in Streatham. In 1871 he was living at Streatham Lane, Tooting, and in 1881 he was living at 4 Besley Street, Eardley Road, Streatham. He had three sons: g151 William [2gU;3gU;4gU], born in 1833; g152 Charles [2gU;3gU;4gU], born in 1837 (1837 quarter 3, Cosford, folio 12 page 227); and g153 Ebenezer [2gF;3gF;4gF], born in 1851 (1851 quarter 4, Cosford, folio 12 page 348).

g150 Mary Bacon (neé ?) [3gM;4gM;5gM] was born in 1811 and was married to g149 James Bacon. In 1841 and 1851 she was living at Polstead Heath, Polstead, Suffolk. In the 1861 census, she was living at Mitchum Road in Streatham. In 1871 she was living at Streatham Lane, Tooting, and in 1881 she was living at 4 Besley Street, Eardley Road, Streatham. She had three sons: g151 William [2gU;3gU;4gU], born in 1833; g152 Charles [2gU;3gU;4gU], born in 1837 (1837 quarter 3, Cosford, folio 12 page 227); and g153 Ebenezer [2gF;3gF;4gF], born in 1851 (1851 quarter 4, Cosford, folio 12 page 348).

g151 William Bacon [2gU;3gU;4gU] was born in 1833 and in 1855 (1855 quarter 2, Sudbury, folio 4a page 507) was married to g242 Ellen Piper. He was son of James and Mary Bacon. In 1841 and 1851 he was living at Polstead Heath, Polstead, Suffolk. In 1881, 1891 and 1901 he was living at 1 Ballingdon Street, Sudbury. He had three daughters. He was a rent collector.

g242 Ellen Bacon (neé Piper) [2gA;3gA;4gA] was born in 1834 and in 1855 (1855 quarter 2, Sudbury, folio 4a page 507) was married to g151 William Bacon. In 1881, 1891 and 1901 she was living at 1 Ballingdon Street, Sudbury. She had three daughters.

g243 Ellen Bacon [1,2R;1,3R;1,4R] was born in 1856 (1856 quarter 1, Sudbury, folio 4a page 404) in Sudbury. She was daughter of William and Ellen Bacon. In 1881 she was living at 1 Ballingdon Street, Sudbury. She was a dress maker.

g244 Emily Eliza Bacon [1,2R;1,3R;1,4R] was born in 1858 (1858 quarter 1, Sudbury, folio 4a page 409) in Sudbury. She was daughter of William and Ellen Bacon. In 1881, 1891 and 1901 she was living at 1 Ballingdon Street, Sudbury. She was a School Mistress.

g245 Adelaide Bacon [1,2R;1,3R;1,4R] was born in 1861 (1861 quarter 1, Sudbury, folio 4a page 399) in Sudbury. She was daughter of William and Ellen Bacon. In 1881, 1891 and 1901 she was living at 1 Ballingdon Street, Sudbury. She was a dress maker.

g152 Charles Bacon [2gU;3gU;4gU] was born in 1837 (1837 quarter 3, Cosford, folio 12 page 227) and in 1874 (1874 quarter 1, Sudbury, folio 4a page 562) was married to g236 Catherine Pung [3gA;4gA;5gA]. He was son of James and Mary Bacon. In 1841 and 1851 he was living at Polstead Heath, Polstead, Suffolk. In 1881 and 1891 he was living at 15 Inkerman Row, Sudbury. In 1901 he was at 4 Park Place, East Street, Sudbury. He had three sons and two daughters. He was a silk weaver.

g236 Catherine Bacon (neé Pung) [3gA;4gA;5gA] was born in 1842 (1842 quarter 1, Sudbury, folio 12 page 470) in Sudbury and in (1874 quarter 1, Sudbury, folio 4a page 562) was married to g152 Charles Bacon. In 1881 and 1891 (census shows Caroline) she was living at 15 Inkerman Row, Sudbury. In 1901 she was at 4 Park Place, East Street, Sudbury. She had three sons and two daughters. She was a silk weaver.

g240 Arthur George Bacon [1,2R;1,3R;1,4R] was born in 1876 (1876 quarter 2, Sudbury, folio 4a page 515) in Sudbury. He was son of Charles and Catherine Bacon. In 1881 and 1891 he was living at 15 Inkerman Row, Sudbury. He was a grocer shop boy.

g241 George Albert Bacon [1,2R;1,3R;1,4R] was born in 1879 (1879 quarter 4, Sudbury, folio 4a page 533) in Sudbury. He was son of Charles and Catherine Bacon. In 1881 and 1891 he was living at 15 Inkerman Row, Sudbury.

g237 Eliza Alice Sarah Bacon [1,2R;1,3R;1,4R] was born in 1865 (1865 quarter 1, Sudbury, folio 4a page 451) in Sudbury. She was daughter of Charles and Catherine Bacon. In 1881 she was living at 15 Inkerman Row, Sudbury. She was a silk weaver.

g238 Charles Wilson Bacon [1,2R;1,3R;1,4R] was born in 1867 (1867 quarter 4, Sudbury, folio 4a page 443) in Sudbury. He was son of Charles and Catherine Bacon. In 1881 he was living at 15 Inkerman Row, Sudbury. He was a grocer shop boy.

g239 Catherine Sarah Bacon [1,2R;1,3R;1,4R] was born in 1875 (1875 quarter 1, Sudbury, folio 4a page 481) in Sudbury. She was daughter of Charles and Catherine Bacon. In 1881 she was living at 15 Inkerman Row, Sudbury.

g234 Anibella Bacon [2gA;3gA;4gA] was born in 1834. She was daughter of James and Mary Bacon. In 1841 she was living at Polstead Heath, Polstead, Suffolk.

g235 Ann Bacon [2gA;3gA;4gA] was born in 1839 (1839 quarter 1, Cosford, folio 12 page 304). She was daughter of James and Mary Bacon. In 1841 she was living at Polstead Heath, Polstead, Suffolk.

g153 Ebenezer Bacon [2gF;3gF;4gF] was born in 1851 (1851 quarter 4, Cosford, folio 12 page 348) in Hadleigh Suffolk. In 1871 he was living at 9 Campden House, Kensington. He was a police constable. He was married to Sarah (née Bailey) [2gM;3gM;4gM] in 1873 (4th. quarter folio 1a page 662) at St. George, Hanover Square, and had as far we know 3 sons and 2 daughters, Maud Mary, and Nellie. He died in 1894 (1st. quarter folio 1d page 296) in Lambeth aged 42 years. In the 1881 census, he was described as a house painter and they were living at 108 Hill St, Newington, London. In the 1891 census, he was described as a painter and decorator and they were living at 72 St. Marks Road, Lambeth, London.
They had two boarders, Charles Matthews, dairyman, and Charles Phillips, born in 1863 (1863 quarter 2, Lambeth, folio 1d page 427), a painter and decorator.

g148 Sarah Bacon (née Bailey) [2gM;3gM;4gM] was born in 1855 in Pimlico Middlesex. She was married to g153 Ebenezer Bacon in 1873 (quarter 4, folio 1a page 662) at St. George, Hanover Square, and had as far we know 3 sons and 2 daughters, Maud Mary, and Nellie. In the 1891 census, they were living at 72 St. Marks Road, Lambeth, London.
They also had two boarders, Charles Matthews, dairyman, and Charles Phillips, born in 1863 (1863 quarter 2, Lambeth, folio 1d page 427), a painter and decorator.
After Ebenezer died in 1894 (1st. quarter folio 1d page 296) in Lambeth aged 42 years, Sarah married g158 Charles Phillips [step2gF;step3gF;step4gF], the boarder, in 1894 (4th. quarter folio 1d page 399) in St. Saviour, Southwark. In the 1901 census, they were still living at 72 St. Marks Road, Lambeth, London. They had 1 son, g159 William [1,2R;1,3R;1,4R] born in 1896 in Lambeth.

g157 James Bacon [gU;2gU;3gU] was born in 1876 (3rd. quarter folio 1d page 482) in Kennington Surrey. He was first son of Ebenezer and Sarah Bacon. In the 1901 census, he is described as a glass fitter.

g156 Charles Bacon [gU;2gU;3gU] was born in 1886 (2nd. quarter folio 1d page 104) in St. Saviour, Southwark. He was second son of Ebenezer and Sarah Bacon. In the 1901 census, he is described as a stamper of stationary.

g154 George Bacon [gU;2gU;3gU] was born in 1890 (2nd. quarter folio 1d page 279) in St Olave Southwark, Surrey. He was Third son of Ebenezer and Sarah Bacon.

g155 Nellie Victoria Bacon [gA;2gA;3gA] was born in 1887 (2nd. quarter folio 1d page 462) in lambeth, Surrey. She was second daughter of Ebenezer and Sarah Bacon. She died in 1902 (1st. quarter folio 1d page 281) in Lambeth aged 14 years.